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PUBLIC HEARING I   Thursday, JANUARY 3rd, 2008

EAST LYME ZONING COMMISSION

MINUTES

 

The East Lyme Zoning Commission held a Public Hearing on the Application of Richard d/b/a The Eclectic chef for a Special Permit to operate a fast food restaurant at property identified as 281 Main Street, Niantic, CT on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at Town Hall, 108 Pennsylvania Avenue, Niantic, CT. Chairman Nickerson opened the Public Hearing and called it to order at 7:34 PM.

 

PRESENT:                 Mark Nickerson, Chairman, Rosanna Carabelas, Secretary,

                                 Marc Salerno, Ed Gada, Norm Peck, Steve Carpenteri

                                                                                                                                   

ALSO PRESENT:       John Birmingham, Alternate

                                 Bob Bulmer, Alternate

                                 William Dwyer, Alternate

                                 Rose Ann Hardy, Ex-Officio

                                 William Mulholland, Zoning Official

                                                                       

ABSENT:                   No One

 

PANEL:                     Mark Nickerson, Chairman, Rosanna Carabelas, Secretary,

                      Marc Salerno, Ed Gada, Norm Peck, Steve Carpenteri

 

 

Pledge of Allegiance

The Pledge was observed.

 

Public Hearing I

1.       Application of Richard McFadden d/b/a The Eclectic Chef for a Special Permit to operate a fast food restaurant at property identified in the Application as 281 Main Street, Niantic, CT,

 

Mr. Nickerson asked Ms. Carabelas, Secretary to read the correspondence into the record.

 

Ms. Carabelas, Secretary read the following correspondence into the record:

¨       Letter dated 1/2/08 to EL Zoning Commission from William Mulholland, Zoning Official – Re: Special Permit Application Eclectic Chef, CB Zone – noting that a review of the applicable standards found in Section 24.6 finds that two waivers or exceptions to the landscape requirement will be needed and that since this is a pre-existing site the waivers might be appropriate. The parking for this property lies within the parking overlay zone and is exempted from having to provide parking under the requirements of Section 22.1.1 through 22.1.15 provided that lot coverage existing on or before October 19, 1999 is not increased.

 

Mr. Nickerson noted that the legal ad had run in The Day on December 21, 2007 and December 31, 2007.

 

Mr. Mulholland noted that the sign has been posted at the location.

 

Mr. Nickerson then called upon the applicant or their representative for their presentation.

 

Richard McFadden, Applicant said that he is looking to move his store one-eighth of a mile down the street to this new location on the opposite side of the street. This location will allow him to have approximately 12-14 seats for customers. He said that Subway is next door to him, Eleni’s is across the street as well as Grandpa’s and other food service operations that essentially serve the same type of food. He said that he brings this to their attention so that they can see that he is not looking to operate the type of establishment that is not already present in this area.

 

Mr. Salerno asked which building he would be occupying.

Mr. McFadden said that it is the prior Fashion Imports building located between the movie theater/cinema and Subway. He added that he is looking to move here because with the Christmas Shop closed that the foot traffic has died where he is currently located on the opposite side of the street.

 

Mr. Carpenteri asked how much bigger this shop would be in comparison to where he is now.

Mr. McFadden said that it is essentially the same size and that he would only be gaining 10 sq. ft. of space. He added that there are kitchen facilities in this location.

 

Ms. Carabelas noted that he had outside dining where he is now and asked if he planned on having it where he is re-locating to.

 

Mr. Mulholland explained that it would fall under another special permit and that Mr. McFadden would have to come back before the Commission to apply for that.

 

Mr. McFadden said that his plans for the future are to apply for the outside dining permit however, for now he is just looking to open his store in the new location.

 

Mr. Nickerson noted that the outdoor dining that he had at his current establishment was grandfathered and that it would go away when he moves and he will have to re-apply for it.

Mr. McFadden said that he understood that and that he would apply at a later time when the weather becomes more suitable for outside dining.

 

Mr. Nickerson called for anyone from the public who wished to speak in favor of this application –

 

Donald Gerwick, 11 Pleasant Drive Ext. said that he has had the opportunity to frequent the current establishment and that he would encourage them to grant this request.

 

Mr. Nickerson called for anyone else from the public who wished to speak –

Hearing no one –

Mr. Nickerson asked if the Commission had any other comments or questions –

Hearing none –

Mr. Nickerson called for a motion to close this Public Hearing.

 

**MOTION (1)

Mr. Salerno moved that this Public Hearing be closed.

Mr. Gada seconded the motion.

Vote:  6 – 0 – 0.  Motion passed.

 

Mr. Nickerson closed this Public Hearing at 7:48 PM.

 

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

Karen Zmitruk,

Recording Secretary

 


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REGULAR MEETING   Thursday, JANUARY 3rd, 2008

EAST LYME ZONING COMMISSION

MINUTES

 

The East Lyme Zoning Commission held a Regular Meeting on January 3, 2008 at Town Hall, 108 Pennsylvania Avenue, Niantic, CT.

 

PRESENT:                 Mark Nickerson, Chairman, Rosanna Carabelas, Secretary,

                                 Marc Salerno, Ed Gada, Norm Peck, Steve Carpenteri

                                                                                                                                   

ALSO PRESENT:       John Birmingham, Alternate

                                 Bob Bulmer, Alternate

                                 William Dwyer, Alternate

                                 Rose Ann Hardy, Ex-Officio

                                 William Mulholland, Zoning Official

                                                                       

ABSENT:                   No One

 

 

1.       Call to Order

Chairman Nickerson called this Regular Meeting of the Zoning Commission to order at 7:49 PM after the previously scheduled Public Hearing. The Pledge was previously observed.

 

Mr. Nickerson welcomed the new members; Mr. Birmingham and Mr. Carpenteri to the Commission.

 

 

Public Delegations

Mr. Nickerson called for anyone from the public who wished to address the Commission on subject matters not on the Agenda.

 

There were none.

 

 

Regular Meeting

 

1.       Application of Richard McFadden d/b/a The Eclectic Chef for a Special Permit to operate a fast food restaurant at property identified in the application as 281 Main Street, Niantic, CT.

Mr. Nickerson called for a motion and/or discussion.

 

**MOTION (1)

Mr. Salerno moved to approve the application of Richard McFadden d/b/a The Eclectic Chef for a Special Permit to operate a fast food restaurant at property identified in the Application as 291 Main Street, Niantic, CT with the following exceptions:

¨       Application exempt from complying with Sections 24.6 E-2 front landscaping and 24.6 E-3 six foot (6’) buffer along side and rear property lines.

Mr. Carpenteri seconded the motion.

 

Ms. Carabelas asked if it is impossible to put in something regarding the landscaping.

Mr. Mulholland said that the area is mostly paved and that it is a pre-existing area. However, that would be something that they could address on the patio portion and perhaps suggest planters.

 

Vote:  6 – 0 – 0.  Motion passed.

 

2.       Request of Gerwick-Mereen LLC for a waiver of Section 24.6-C “Sidewalks” for a property identified in the Application as 279 Boston Post Road, East Lyme, CT

Mr. Peck recused himself from discussion on this application and sat in the audience.

Mr. Nickerson seated Mr. Bulmer, Alternate at the table for this discussion.

 

Donald Gerwick, PE, place of business 1020 Hartford Turnpike, Waterford said that this is the site of a new dental office for Dr. Robson. The site is very tight and is only 80’ wide. It is located to the west of Islanda Court on Boston Post Road. The site plan was approved by Mr. Mulholland and they have all of the elements except the sidewalk. There is a telephone pole that would fall partially where the sidewalk would be constructed. The site is 1000’ west of any existing sidewalks on Boston Post Road so this would be a section of sidewalk that begins nowhere and ends nowhere. Dr. Robson has made a significant investment in this Town and has indicated that if sidewalks were to come to this area that he would be willing to put them in at that time.

 

Mr. Nickerson said that the issue from Mill Road is that there is a tractor facility without a sidewalk and that there are many properties that have dirt paths that people utilize all the time. The dirt path ends at the boat launch and while this would, no doubt, create a sidewalk to nowhere, they need to decide how they are going to handle this regulation as they have it on the books and it cannot just continually be waived.

 

Mr. Gerwick asked that they consider that the dental office is not the type of facility that will generate a lot of foot traffic and the fact that Dr. Robson has agreed to put in sidewalks should they get down to that area.

 

Mr. Nickerson asked Mr. Mulholland if that was something that could be done that way.

Mr. Mulholland said that they are not sure how long it would be before sidewalks will get to that area and that long ago the determination was made that they did not want sidewalks to nowhere so there comes a time where they have to start doing sidewalks and stop waiving them.

 

Mr. Salerno, Ms. Carabelas and Mr. Nickerson agreed that they need to do this.

 

Mr. Bulmer said that he has been by that area quite frequently and that the students go to the lake and that as part of their crew training they have to run back to the school and without sidewalks there, they run in the road. Traffic has increased there and people walk all the time. He said that he feels that there should be a sidewalk there and that they should just get the ball rolling on putting them in.

 

Mr. Gerwick said that their points are well taken but said that he wished to note that most runners use the road even when there is a sidewalk available.

 

Mr. Gada asked where the on-site parking is located.

Mr. Gerwick pointed it out on the landscape plan for the site.

 

Mr. Gada asked if a sidewalk in the front would interfere with the handicap parking.

Mr. Gerwick said no.

 

Mr. Salerno asked about the anticipated opening date for this office and if it was a new business.

Dr. Robson said that he expected to open in the summer and that he was moving from Flanders Four Corners to this location.

 

Mr. Gerwick showed the Commissioners the architecture of the new building.

The Commissioners were quite impressed with the design elevations.

 

**MOTION (2)

Mr. Salerno moved to deny the request of Gerwick-Mereen LLC for a waiver of Section 24.6-C “Sidewalks” for a property identified in the application as 279 Boston Post Road, East Lyme, CT.

Mr. Bulmer seconded the motion.

Vote:  5 – 0 – 1.  Motion passed.

Abstained:  Mr. Gada

 

Mr. Peck returned to the table and was seated and Mr. Bulmer returned to the audience.

 

3.       CAM Application of Bernstingle for 20 Atlantic Street, Niantic, CT  - (Crescent Beach) Repair of a Seawall

Mr. Nickerson called upon the applicant or their representative to present this –

 

Kenneth Petrini, Engineer with DiCesare-Bentley Engineers, Inc. said that he is representing the applicant. He submitted a site plan of the area dated 12/7/07 which was entered as Exhibit A and five (5) photos of the site taken in November 2007 which were entered as Exhibit B.

 

Mr. Mulholland noted to the Commission that the property is located in Crescent Beach and that they have their own Zoning so what they are looking at here is strictly the soil & erosion for the seawall repair.

 

Mr. Petrini explained that this parcel and the seawall are located between Crescent Beach and McCook’s Point and that it is a one-quarter acre site. They are here for the seawall as there was damage to it. The house predates 1938 and the seawall was there in 1942. The CAM report shows that there is no impact as there is an existing structure there and they are just repairing it. He said that they have also submitted the application information to the DEP for their input. He asked if they had any questions.

 

Mr. Salerno asked when this project is done how they will prevent the soil from getting onto the beach.

Mr. Petrini said that there is very little excavation to the wall as this is only a repair.

 

**MOTION (3)

Mr. Salerno moved to approve the CAM Application of Bernstingle for repair of an existing seawall at 20 Atlantic Street, Niantic, CT (Crescent Beach).

Ms. Carabelas seconded the motion.

Vote:  6 – 0 – 0.  Motion passed.

 

Mr. Salerno said that this was approved because it is consistent with all of the applicable rules and measures will be taken to mitigate any adverse impacts.

 

 

4.       Zoning Commission Budget 2008/2009 and Zoning Commission Fee Schedule

¨       Zoning Commission Budget for 2008-2009

Mr. Mulholland explained the budget noting that it is the same as it has been and that the salary increases would be determined by the Board of Selectmen at a later time.

 

Mr. Peck noted that he would not feel comfortable discussing a salary increase in front of the person that it was meant for.

Mr. Mulholland explained that ultimately it is the Board of Selectmen who determines the increase.

 

**MOTION (4)

Ms. Carabelas moved to approve the Zoning Commission budget for 2008-2009 in the amount of $77,850 as proposed.

Mr. Carpenteri seconded the motion.

Vote:  5 – 0 – 1.  Motion passed.

Abstained:  Mr. Peck

 

¨       Zoning Commission Fee Schedule

Mr. Mulholland passed out a copy of the fee schedule for Zoning with some proposed changes. He explained that he was asked by the First Selectman to review the fees that are being charged as they were last changed three to four years ago.

 

Mr. Salerno said that his concern is that to build a tool shed that it might cost $1000 with a $117 cost for permits which he finds outrageous because they want people to pull permits and to do things correctly and this type of fee for such a small item discourages them. He noted for instance that to do a large addition to a house of $20,000 that it would only cost $140 in permit fees versus the $117 for a $1000 tool shed.

 

Mr. Mulholland cautioned that they are only discussing the Zoning permit fee and not the Building permit fees which are a lot higher and figured in a different way. Plus, there is also the $30 State fee that does not go away and gets charged on top of their local fee. He said that he looked at other Towns in the area and has found that they are fairly comparable in their fee structure. They could further break down their fees by size although the current structure seems to be pretty straightforward to follow and implement.

 

Mr. Carpenteri noted that in Section 3.9 that the $100 going to $400 seems a bit high.

 

Mr. Salerno and Ms. Carabelas suggested keeping the fees at the low end for the small businesses versus the large type chain businesses.

 

Mr. Peck suggested that some research be done by obtaining the 2007 figures for each category so that they can look at it in that way to see what has been happening and how the income from the past year was distributed.

 

Mr. Nickerson asked if the consensus is to get more information on this and to revisit it.

 

Ms. Hardy, Ex-Officio noted that there seems to be a big discrepancy between single family and mega commercial in that they have only a $50 difference and that this does not seem fair.

 

Mr. Mulholland said that he could break this down further based upon square footage.

Mr. Nickerson said that they would take this up at their next meeting when they had more information to review.

 

5.       Approval of Minutes – Regular Meeting of December 6, 2007

Mr. Nickerson called for discussion on, or corrections to the Regular Meeting Minutes of December 6, 2007.

 

**MOTION (5)

Mr. Peck moved to approve the Regular Meeting Minutes of December 6, 2007 of the Commission as presented.

Ms. Carabelas seconded the motion.

 

Ms. Carabelas asked as a general note that Ms. Byrnes name be removed as she is no longer on the Commission.

 

Vote:  5 – 0 – 1.  Motion passed.

Abstained:  Mr. Gada

 

 

Old Business

1.       Stormwater

There was nothing new to report.

 

2.       Subcommittee – Niantic Village – CB Zones (Mark Nickerson, Marc Salerno & Norm Peck)

Mr. Nickerson said that they are working on this.

 

 

3.       By-Laws Subcommittee (Mark Nickerson & Pamela Byrnes)

Mr. Nickerson asked if they were ready to vote on these.

Mr. Carpenteri said that he has reviewed them and that he did not have any issues with them.

 

**MOTION (6)

Mr. Peck moved to adopt the Zoning Commission Bylaws as amended.

Ms. Carabelas seconded the motion.

Vote:  6 – 0 - 0.  Motion passed. 

 

 

4.  Subcommittee – Adult Uses (Rosanna Carabelas)

Ms. Carabelas said that they were waiting on the Attorney for his review.

Mr. Mulholland said that it would be a two-pronged attack – by Town Ordinance and a Zoning Regulation so that they are compatible and enforceable.

 

 

5.  Transitional Zones Subcommittee – (Marc Salerno & Norm Peck)

Mr. Salerno asked that this be added to the agenda.

 

 

New Business

1.       Application of Harry & Trifonas Loginidis d/b/a Family Pizza for the renewal of a Special Permit for Outdoor Dining at 233 Main Street, Niantic.

Mr. Nickerson asked Mr. Mulholland to schedule this for Public Hearing.

 

2.       Application of Kim Burrows, for Broadway Kids and Co., for a Special Permit to operate a private training facility, trade or technical school at 5 Freedom Way, Units D1-D4, Niantic.

Mr. Nickerson asked Mr. Mulholland to schedule this for Public Hearing.

 

3.       Any other business on the floor, if any, by the majority vote of the Commission.

Mr. Mulholland passed out information on Mixed Use Development CA and CB zones suggesting a modification of the controls governing this in Section 25.5 by elimination of the restrictions to office and retail use. He noted that it has been talked about many times.

 

Mr. Salerno suggested pushing forward with it noting that they already have a lot of apartments over retail established within the Town. He cited Midway Mall as an example.

Mr. Mulholland concurred and added that the units tend to be more affordable and with this change the marketplace would dictate and they might see more housing above retail.

 

**MOTION (7)

Mr. Peck moved that they schedule the Mixed Use Development CA and CB zones change for public hearing.

Mr. Salerno seconded the motion.

Vote:  6 – 0 – 0.  Motion passed.

 

4.       Zoning Official

Mr. Mulholland reminded the Commission that they have the Gateway application coming up and that they have an aggressive schedule.

 

Mr. Nickerson asked that they also have the person who will do a presentation on the economic impact of the Gateway at that meeting so that the information can all be presented the same evening.

Mr. Mulholland said that a person has been engaged to do this and that he is not sure if he can get this done in the two weeks time however he is in discussion with them.

 

Mr. Nickerson and Mr. Mulholland said that they would work together on the scheduling.

 

5.       Comments from Ex-Officio

Ms. Hardy said that the Board of Selectmen has been busy with appointments and that she did not have anything to report.

 

6.       Comments from Zoning Commission liaison to Planning Commission

Mr. Bowers was present. There were no comments.

 

7.       Comments from Chairman

Mr. Nickerson said that he did not have anything further to report.

 

8.       Adjournment

 

**MOTION (8)

Mr. Gada moved to adjourn this Regular Meeting of the East Lyme Zoning Commission at 9:30 PM.

Mr. Salerno seconded the motion.

Vote:  6 – 0 – 0.  Motion passed.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

Karen Zmitruk,

Recording Secretary

 


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PUBLIC HEARING I    Thursday, JANUARY 17th, 2008

EAST LYME ZONING COMMISSION

MINUTES

 

The East Lyme Zoning Commission held a Public Hearing on the Application of Theodore A. Harris for Gateway Development/East Lyme LLC to amend the East Lyme Zoning Regulations to add proposed Section 11.A.9 to serve as an alternative to the existing Zoning regulatory guidelines in the Gateway Zoning District and which would establish Zoning requirements for development under a set of ‘Master Development Plan’ regulations providing specific criteria for mixed-use development, building sizes, eligibility, submission requirements, approval criteria, implementation phasing and public improvements, on Thursday, January 17 2008 at the East Lyme Middle School, 30 Society Road, Niantic, CT. Chairman Nickerson opened the Public Hearing and called it to order at 7:32 PM.

 

PRESENT:                 Mark Nickerson, Chairman, Rosanna Carabelas, Secretary,

                                 Norm Peck, Steve Carpenteri, John Birmingham, Alternate, William Dwyer, Alternate

                                                                                                                                   

ALSO PRESENT:       Attorney Theodore Harris, Representing Gateway Dev/EL LLC

                                 Jay Fisher, Principal SK Properties Development

                                 Chris Knisley, Principal, KGI Properties LLC

                                 Michael Wang, Architect, Arrowstreet

                                 John Mancini, Engineer, BL Companies

                                 Bill Sweeney, Planner, TCORS

                                 Donald Klepper-Smith, Chief Economist DataCore Partners LLC

                                 Bob Bulmer, Alternate

                                 William Mulholland, Zoning Official

                                                                       

ABSENT:                   Ed Gada, Marc Salerno

 

PANEL:                     Mark Nickerson, Chairman, Rosanna Carabelas, Secretary,

                      Norm Peck, Steve Carpenteri, John Birmingham, Alternate, William Dwyer, Alternate

 

 

Pledge of Allegiance

The Pledge was observed.

 

Public Hearing I

1.   Application of Theodore A. Harris for Gateway Development/East Lyme LLC to amend the East Lyme Zoning Regulations to add proposed Section 11.A.9. This proposal serves as an alternative to the existing Zoning regulatory guidelines in the Gateway Zoning District and would establish Zoning requirements for development under a set of ‘Master Development Plan’ regulations. The proposal provides the specific criteria for mixed-use development (retail & residential), building sizes, eligibility, submission requirements, approval criteria, implementation phasing and public improvements.

 

Mr. Nickerson welcomed everyone and noted that the legal ad had run in The Day on January 4, 2008 and January 14, 2008. He then asked Ms. Carabelas, Secretary to read the correspondence into the record.

 

Ms. Carabelas, Secretary read the following correspondence into the record:

¨       Letter dated 1/16/08 to Mark Nickerson, Chairman, Zoning Commission from Francine Schwartz, Secretary, EL Planning Commission – Re: Application of Theodore Harris for Gateway Development/East Lyme LLC to amend the Zoning Regulations to add new Section 11.A.98 to allow development under a set of “Master Development Plan” regulations – finding the application CONSISTENT with the recommendations in the Plan of Conservation & Development and Yale Charrette Report to channel future commercial growth toward the Rte/ 161/I-95 interchange.

¨       Letter dated 11/20/07 to EL Zoning Commission from Ed Shapiro, EDC Chairman – Re: The Gateway Project – finding the latest Gateway submission with its’ extensive redesign of the I-95 North and Southbound exits and entrances a major plus for the Town

¨       Email Letter dated 1/10/08 to Zoning Commission C/o Bill Mulholland from Marcy Balint, OSLIP - Re: Zone Change to add Proposed Section 11.A.9 to the Zoning Regulations – finding that the site under discussion is located outside of the coastal boundary.

¨       Letter dated 11/20/07 from Theodore Harris to Bill Mulholland, ZO – Re: Gateway Development East Lyme LLC – supplying text amendment and clients’ fund check of $230.00.

 

Mr. Nickerson noted that the Regional Planning Commission did not meet in December so there was no report from them.

 

Mr. Nickerson then called upon the applicant or their representative for their presentation.

 

Attorney Theodore Harris, representing the applicant synopsized the history of this text amendment and the subsequent variety of meetings and events which brought them to this evolution in the plans. He said that the criterion is based on broad goals and that it is a modified regulation that they are bringing forth this evening. He noted as they have stated, that the Planning Commission has found this proposal consistent with the Plan of Conservation and Development goals and that it was felt that this plan would help ease the tax burden of the Town and concentrate the commercial district in the Route 161 area. The Plan focused specifically on that area and the Gateway is located in that area of the Town. He said that the residential was placed west of the Pattagansett to go along with what is located in that area currently. The practical difficulties of the area and the site (ie. Infrastructure, I-95) are the reason why there is a need for a special regulation for this site. The magnitude of the infrastructure work makes it extremely expensive and there is a need for flexibility in the use of the site. The POCD suggested that they should petition the State to get I-95 upgraded however; they all know that the State is not about to move quickly to get all of this work done and that money is also an object for the State. They feel that they now have the framework to be able to move forward with this project and that the two developers own a substantial portion of the zone such that the project is viable. The Master Development Plan is based on a form-based concept of Zoning and it protects the Town by giving extraordinary discretion to the Town. He said that he and Bill Sweeney have worked on this plan for a long period of time and they believe that it promotes a flexible, creative design. It provides for the maximum use of the parcel while minimizing the impact. He introduced Bill Sweeney to explain the specifics of the flowchart of this project.

 

Bill Sweeney, Certified Land Planner with TCORS said that he has been working for about two (2) years on this Gateway project proposing an alternate process to develop the Gateway District. The plan is extremely flexible and comprehensive and is based on form and aesthetics. He said that it is an alternative process that is not mandatory and is for the developer to apply under should they so desire. The Master Development Plan allows for development in phases over a number of years with one of the benefits being the flexibility and comprehensiveness that it provides. It is a modified form-based regulation and this is the direction that modern Zoning is moving in and it is a cutting edge, innovative way to develop. He passed out a flowchart which outlines the sequential steps that are to be taken during this process. This was entered into the record as Exhibit I. (Copy attached at end of Minutes) He explained the flowchart steps noting that Step 2 will result in architectural standards that come out of this as booklets that become regulatory documents for the project. The Master Development Plan sits as an umbrella approval over all of this governing it as it is built out. He said that they are here tonight to approve the MDP process. He then explained the MDP Text Amendment which was entered as Exhibit 2. He explained that the changes are a result of the meetings that were held with the neighborhood people, staff and others since the last time that they presented the first MDP. He said that they removed the reference to Section 25 as this is not a Special Permit and they wanted to make sure that they could move and act on this.

 

Attorney Harris noted that the section on retail use was revisited and that they have provided for a maximum of 425,000 sq. ft. of retail space with a specific breakdown.

Mr. Sweeney said that the uses that are outlined are absolutely necessary to this project.

 

Mr. Nickerson asked about the R-40 zone as the last application had them going into that area and this one does not.

Mr. Sweeney said that was correct and that Jay Fisher of SK Properties Development would explain that aspect a bit later. He noted that one of the issues at the workshops and meetings that they held was that of the tax impact and analysis and that they have Don Klepper-Smith of the Governor’s Council of Economic Advisors and Chief Economist with DataCore Partners LLC present this evening to provide that information to them.

 

Don Klepper-Smith said that DataCore Partners LLC has been asked by Mr. Fisher and Mr. Knisley to conduct an impact analysis. They have compiled a 70 page report and have condensed it to a six (6) page synopsis. This summary was entered into the record as Exhibit 3. He said that they have conducted many of these types of studies and that he would hit only on the key concepts this evening. He explained that the data inputs are common to all fiscal impact studies and that they include the local budget, debt, spending and that they look at 100% of the Town’s non-educational budget. They work with the Assessor on projected mill rates and utilize the Rutgers Study as it has a new multiplier set that is based on the 2000 census. The fiscal impact study does not have indirect impacts. All estimates are based on conservative estimates and are baseline estimates which in all probability are likely to be much higher in the end product. At full build out they are looking at a little over $2.1M in tax revenue for the commercial aspect and another $500,000 for the residential. He summed up that this project makes good sense.

 

Ms. Carabelas said that she is not sure that he answered the right question and asked about the type and need of a 140,000 sq. ft. anchor store.

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that was not a part of the study that he was commissioned to do.

Mr. Fisher said that Ms. Carabelas has asked a question that they do not have an answer to or an application for because they do not have a text amendment to file under. With respect to the 140,000 sq. ft. anchor store size – this allows them to be able to negotiate with a wide range of potential users which are necessary to make this a viable project. The size provides the ability to bring in people to the other stores and the area.

 

Ms. Carabelas said that if they are comparing this to the Evergreen shops that they do not have that size store in the Evergreen shops.

Mr. Fisher said that while that is true that they do have many areas of shopping surrounding the Evergreen shops and those additional shopping areas draw the people in. He added that they are also putting in a 220,000 sq. ft. Wal-Mart on the hill over in that area. And, this plan, without the 140,000 sq. ft. anchor store – does not happen.

 

Mr. Nickerson asked Mr. Klepper-Smith about the education budget/monies and the $7808 per student that we spend plus the $3000 per student that the State supposedly pays and if that actually is so.

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that he could not answer that as it is a conflict of interest for him. However, there is a report that they can view that will answer that for them.

 

Mr. Carpenteri asked what kind of impact this would have on the local businesses.

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that there is no model to compare it to and that they are really talking goods and services that are like no other in the Town. There is no quantitative model that can be used to speculate and they would get as many different answers as there are economists.

Mr. Fisher said that what they are planning to have are concept national stores and none that would be competing with the shops in Niantic or Flanders Four Corners.

 

Chris Knisley, Co-Developer, KGI Properties LLC said that is a good question regarding the impact to the other businesses in the Town. He said that they met with the Niantic Merchants Group in Town also and that they were extremely well received and the meetings well attended and the people were very positive about what this could do for downtown Niantic. It is seen as a complimentary use as each of them has different draws.

 

Mr. Nickerson commented that there was also some discussion with the EDC regarding a Tourist Information Center possibly being located here.

 

Mr. Peck asked if the total net tax income is combined.  

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that $2.1M would be from the commercial and $565,800 would come from the residential for a combined total of $2.6M.

 

Mr. Peck noted that they had evaluated the residential component and asked how it calculated out.

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that the multiplier is driven by the Rutgers Study Report and that it would come out to around 53 additional school age children although all of them may not be ‘new’ as some people may move within the Town to this area.

 

Mr. Peck asked if when they were figuring for Police if they figured the retail component would have its’ own Police.

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that the build out is such that the formulas reflect municipal factors and it was estimated for the commercial side. It assumes that Public Safety will be increased to the extent that it exists in the Town.

Mr. Fisher added that in addition there would be private security on the premises. He said that he also contacted three (3) other Towns Police Departments that have shopping malls located in them and that they faxed over their crime statistics. Out of all three of them there was one assault and other issues were employees inadvertently setting off the alarm systems and some fender benders. He said that the report and the respective Town Police Departments are available to be called should they desire to speak with them.

 

Mr. Dwyer noted the population number of 18,000 and asked if that included the institutional prison population.

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that they used the population statistic and that it excludes the prison population.    

 

Mr. Nickerson noted that at this time that they would break from tradition as Mr. Klepper-Smith has a broken arm and some distance to travel and that he would take comments from the public regarding the impact analysis only. He called for anyone from the public who wished to comment on this study or address the Commission with questions that they would like to have Mr. Klepper-Smith answer regarding the study.

 

Rocco Tricarico, 17 Rose Lane said that regarding the economics that he would like to know if they spoke with the Board of Ed at all on the trends they see and the number of children.

Mr. Klepper-Smith said that they did not ask them directly and that the information came from State reports on tr